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		<title>What is Web 3.0?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this video today where Eric Schmidt (of Google) answers the question &#8220;what is web 3.0?&#8221;. The guy (with The Christian Look) who asks the question boldly asserts that we know what web 2.0 is&#8230; do we? Anyway,

&#8220;Web 2.0 is a term that corresponds to Ajax.&#8221;My standard answer to &#8220;what is web 2.0?&#8221; would [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this video today where Eric Schmidt (of <span style="font-weight: bold;">Google</span>) answers the question <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;what is web 3.0?&#8221;</span>. The guy (with <span style="font-style: italic;">The Christian Look</span>) who asks the question boldly asserts that <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">we know what web 2.0 is</span>&#8230; do we? Anyway,</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;Web 2.0 is a term that corresponds to Ajax.&#8221;</span></span><br />My standard answer to <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8220;what is web 2.0?&#8221;</span> would be something along the lines of &#8220;it&#8217;s about <span style="font-weight: bold;">control of users and data</span>&#8220;, i.e. you build a big web site where users can generate the content, market it, and pray you&#8217;ll be among the 1% that are somewhat successful. Then you capitalize on providing pieces of that data. <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Google if anyone should know that.</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Ajax</span> (or whatever you choose to call it) is a technology that is certainly a part of the modern web, but really, aren&#8217;t pastel colors and rounded corners more important for a web 2.0 site? even if you build it with old-fashioned server-side scripts only. Ajax as a technology is an enabler, not a necessity.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;[Web 3.0] is a different way of building applications.&#8221;</span><br /></span>Yes, maybe that too. The web by the time 3.0 comes around is bound to have some new technology &#8211; or rather some new uses of the technologies we have. And this will allow us to make applications in a different way. So the statement is trivially true, but it does not provide a definition or even a speculation of what web 3.0 will be like. Let&#8217;s move on&#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;Web 3.0 will be applications that are pieced together.&#8221;</span><br /></span>This is more interesting. Like <span style="font-weight: bold;">mashups</span>? I&#8217;m sure all of us computer software users would like to have that. But I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it: applications from different vendors cooperating. So far unix system tools are the only ones to come close to this ideal. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think this is realistic for web apps.</p>
<p><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;The applications are relatively small&#8221; </span><br /></span>Now this is one of my favorite pet peeves. I nagged a bit about this on my <a href="http://henrikfalck.com/blog/2007/06/css-nite-vol-19-recap-and-sequel.html" >CSS Nite presentation </a>as well: Right now, many people, and especially <span style="font-weight: bold;">Apple</span>, are thinking of web apps/widgets/gadgets as small, more-or-less useless applications for trivial tasks such as analog clocks or calculators, or something that in the very least is separated from the tasks of &#8220;real&#8221; applications. <span style="font-style: italic;">I don&#8217;t agree with this at all</span>&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider Mac OS with its <span style="font-weight: bold;">Dashboard</span> (even though it is a great reification of the ideal of web tech-based apps): you have a &#8220;normal&#8221; mode; your normal apps, running along in their windows as usual, and a &#8220;widgets&#8221; mode; your normal apps&#8212;no wait, these aren&#8217;t normal apps &#8211; these are <span style="font-style: italic;">widgets</span>, special kind of apps made in a special, even naive, kind of way, to be run in a sandbox isolated from your normal desktop working environment. Even Opera has copied this thinking.</p>
<p>This is definitely how it is right now, so I can understand Apple&#8217;s decision. But <span style="font-style: italic;">I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s how it will be</span>, in the future, boys and girls. <span style="font-style: italic;">Web technology-based application will be just as common as other applications</span>, I think. And in a few years they will be just as big as well. Many have tried to achieve this before &#8211; Java and Dotnet come to mind &#8211; but <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">web technology has already won</span>. I thought a lot about this, and I&#8217;ll write about it some time.
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<p><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">&#8220;The data is in the cloud&#8221;</span></span><br />I want some of what you&#8217;re smoking too dude, but <span style="font-style: italic;">there is no cloud</span>. Data belongs to somebody, access is restricted, bandwidth is limited. <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">The Internet is not a cloud</span> (it&#8217;s a series of tubes).</p>
<p>There are a few more goodies in the video. Anyway, <span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">what will the web 3.0 be like?</span> I mean, if you can figure that out now, <span style="font-style: italic;">you&#8217;ll be a billionaire</span>. I think I have pretty decent idea, and I&#8217;ll continue writing about <a href="http://henrikfalck.com/blog/labels/web%203.0.html" >web 3.0</a> here in this blog. I think and hope that <span style="font-style: italic;">Google won&#8217;t be playing a big part in it</span>. (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070914_002928.html" >They might be absorbed into something bigger</a>, though).</p>
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